Monday, November 21, 2005
Wednesday, November 16, 2005
Tangled Bank #41
Wednesday, November 09, 2005
Dolly

There are all kinds of ethical issues wrapped up in this kind of procedure. Source of the embryos is the first. Dr. Wilmut mentioned several times during his talk that in all upcoming research that they are planning, all the embryos will be donated, without compensation, from willing women. The didn't want to use the embryos that come as leftovers from in-vitro fertilization (IVF) that are commonly used in embryonic stem cell derivation, because they didn't want the women/families to not get pregnant and then have to consider that they had given up an embryo that they could have used. He had several other examples, as well, that were along the lines of "not wanting to have the woman think about such and such." Sounds like a responsible researcher, right?
Another troublesome issue is the incidence of abnormalities. There's no doubt that they are quite high, even under the best of conditions. Dolly had arthritis and died early, although there is no direct evidence that these were caused by the cloning procedure per se. But there have been plenty of studies showing that abnormalities are high (particularly respiratory problems, apparently) in cloned animals, and there are significant differences in the requirements for successful cloning across species. Cloning of rhesus monkeys, or any primate for that matter, have yet to be successful. It's a young technique, so there are bound to be some growing pains as methods are developed, but I think it's safe to say that no one involved in this kind of research thinks that human cloning is anywhere near being feasible...let alone safe. No doubt also that it could be...someday.
This last point prompted someone in the audience to ask what is to prevent someone (attention wacko religious cults!!) from taking the "Faustian deal" and clone a human being when the technology is available, no matter what the consequences. Dr. Wilmut's response was one I've heard before, and is at once simple and elegant.
Make a law against it.
Sounds simple right? That's because it is. And the U.S. is one of only a few countries not to have a specific law against it. Not only that, our fine leaders have prevented a U.N. measure from coming up to vote on making it a world-wide crime against humanity to clone a human being.
Let's think for a second about the debate that went on (national debate) during the Terry Schiavo case about the end of life. This is a subject that evoked a lot of passion from a lot of people. But that passion was more about the way we determine when life has ended, or when it is okay TO end life. But the rules about when life DOES end are reasonably set. Why can't we have this discussion about the start of life in this country? I should ask...why can't we have a REASONABLE discussion about this? My personal opinion is that this debate is a lot more confusing to the average person. The details are trickier. It seems too "science-y" for many, and the easy answers that many religious and political leaders are giving are convenient to fall back on, rather than try and learn about the issue. I hope in the coming weeks to provide more information to clarify this issue. And I hope that people can make their own decisions about when a ball of cells is no longer a ball of cells, but a little ball of life with associated inalienable rights.
Friday, November 04, 2005
The Vatican
Some highlights, if you don't care to read:
"VATICAN CITY- A Vatican cardinal said Thursday the faithful should listen to what secular modern science has to offer, warning that religion risks turning into "fundamentalism" if it ignores scientific reason.
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'The permanent lesson that the Galileo case represents pushes us to keep alive the dialogue between the various disciplines, and in particular between theology and the natural sciences, if we want to prevent similar episodes from repeating themselves in the future,' Cardinal Paul Poupard said.
But he said science, too, should listen to religion.
'We know where scientific reason can end up by itself: the atomic bomb and the possibility of cloning human beings are fruit of a reason that wants to free itself from every ethical or religious link,' he said.
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Monsignor Gianfranco Basti, director of the Vatican project STOQ, or Science, Theology and Ontological Quest, reaffirmed John Paul's 1996 statement that evolution was 'more than just a hypothesis.'
'A hypothesis asks whether something is true or false," he said. "(Evolution) is more than a hypothesis because there is proof.'"
I wasn't aware of the 1996 statement before...may have to go look it up.